In this episode of Conversations Life Science Leaders Aren’t Having, we sit down with Aaron McHugh, executive coach, wilderness trails facilitator, author and podcaster.

Aaron used to think that work-life balance was possible. Now he believes it’s a myth. He was burning out but didn’t admit it. Anybody else could see the signs a mile away. Ultimately, the solution was nothing short of a complete re-boot.

In our conversation, Aaron shares what he has learned along the way and that he wrote about in his book, Fire Your Boss. We dive into some of the ways leaders can experience more joy and bring all of themselves to work life play.

Some highlights of our conversation include:

1:48 – Who is Aaron McHugh?

4:10 – Jumping Over Fences in Your Life

12:32 – Being Drawn to Misfits

13:53 – Belonging nowhere and everywhere

16:28 – Kinship and we-ness in Leadership

19:40 – Moving from “I” to “We”

22:06 – Being a second mountain person

24:17 – A Map to the second mountain

27:54 – “Work would be great if…”

31:30 – The Start to Experiencing Meaningful Work

33:09 – A second mountain story

38:05 – Combating Burnout

41:16 – Two degree shifts in life and leadership

46:20 – Invitation to a brave conversation

49:55 – Fire your boss when you’re the boss

Here’s the books we referenced in the episode:

Fire Your Boss by Aaron

Burning in My Bones by Winn Collier

The Second Mountain by David Brooks

Essentialism by Greg McKeown

To connect with Aaron, you can find him in these places:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaronmchugh/

Work Life Play Podcast: https://www.aaronmchugh.com/podcast/

Web-site: https://www.aaronmchugh.com/